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Allocate Car CO2 all to owner or between drivers ?

Thread started on 12/8/2010 16:01

Rick M

Our CRAG currently allocates vehicle CO2 emissions to the registered owner in line with the FAQs in CRAGs A Short Guide [1].

*Have you / your CRAG considered dividing a vehicle emissions by the number of drivers ?

*What did you see as the pros & cons ?

*And if your CRAG did decide to divide vehicle emissions by the number of drivers, what has your experience been ?

[1] From CRAGs A Short Guide – (anticipated) Frequently Asked Questions
“Q7a I live with my partner and we share a car but he’s not interested in his CO2 emissions. How will that work ?
A7a You will be debited only half your [household] energy emissions whether he joins in the group or not.

Q7b And what about the car emissions ?
A7b If you own the car they will be debited from your account. If you don’t, they won’t. We have to keep it simple.”

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john ackers

john ackers

Rick, two members of our group divide their car emissions amongst the number of people in their household that normally use the car. Not sure I understand A7b. We as a group have not asked them to itemise every trip. Having said that, two other members that do occasionally travel by car do itemise those trips.

I think technology is eventually going to come to the rescue here. As many phones, even those without GPS, seem to know where they are, it seems to me that a smart phone application could keep track of your location, so you could calculate trip distances and the travel times and therefore average speed of trip and so guess mode of travel (walk, bike, car/bus/train, high speed train, air) and finally calculate total emissions.

 

Allocating Car CO2

jamesinyork

Hi guys. Surely the only fair way of doing this is by mileage? Also including an allowance for the non-fuel element of emissions, e.g. manufacturing. So for a car which officially produces 130g/km, this figure will have to be scaled up to take into account the CO2 from producing and maintaining the car, although it would have to be a rough estimate. I’m not an expert on this but a web search should help.

 

Allocating CO2 for shared car by mileage individuals drive

Rick M

Hi James, So if more than one person drove a car, you propose each persons carbon account would be debited according to the actual mileage each had driven ?

Is this what York CRAG actually does ?

If yes, what has the experience of doing it this way been ?

And, if yes, does your CRAG check that all the mileage has been reported and how is this done ?

 

Re: Allocating CO2 for shared car by mileage individuals drive

jamesinyork

Firstly I should say that I left York over 2 years ago and have not been involved in a CRAG since.

York CRAG took a fairly informal approach, where people would be trusted to record their carbon ‘consumption’ and there were no checks. I think I used my fuel purchases as the basis (obviously this doesn’t count the embedded carbon in the car etc) but I can see its more complicated for shared vehicles. Personally I would used a mileage-based approach for shared vehicles, it seems the best way of doing it to me (unless you use a trip computer which tells you how much fuel you’ve used on a journey).

My view is that it is important to apportion emissions properly to individuals’ activities where possible. In some cases this gets more complex (for example for public transport, I don’t believe you should simply divide the emissions during your journey by the average no of passengers) but this is another whole area of discussion!

James

 

John, To clarify :

Rick M

John, To clarify : was it left to each individual who had shared use of a car to decide whether to divide the cars mileage by the number of regular drivers or was it a policy decided by Islington CRAG ?