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"The Environment is too important to be left in the hands of the Environmentalists"

Thread started on 7/2/2007 20:12

marcws

Interestingly this is what Monsieur Sarkozy said on his visit to London. (I hope I have not misquoted him) I have some sympathy with this as the people he is referring to have, whilst doing some good, also turned a lot of people off due to their reactionary style in my opinion. There is a need to change but there is also a need to carry the other 80% of people with us in the need to change everybody’s habits and reduce our impact upon the planet as a whole.

Much has been written about ‘Greenwash’ and the ‘woolly’ thinking that has surrounded Environmentalism and its bandwagon. Is there now a need to take a properly informed and well targeted/marketed message and, more importantly a joined up approach in order to show leadership?

I would like to know your thoughts!

Good point, I would save 99%

robinsmith3

robinsmith3

Good point, I would say 99% have yet to be converted though. Did he add any meat to his quote?

 

er what did he say about

john ackers

john ackers

er what did he say about carbon rationing?

 

Yhat its perfectly suitable

robinsmith3

robinsmith3

That its perfectly suitable for “post environmentalists” is what I guess Mark is alluding to

Its a perfectly valid topic to talk about here

 

He was not talking about

marcws

He was not talking about Carbon rationing in isolation and i think that was his point!

 

I think extreme stances

david

david

I think extreme stances taken by environmentalists are largely a reaction to the equally unsatisfactory relegation of environmental issues to the very bottom of political priorities. However, some reading (Jared Diamond’s “Collapse” comes to mind) does show that they are important driving forces of societies’ success or failure.

The rise in the political importance of climate change will promote rational debate over both the extreme environmentalists and the denialists. That process has begun, and the quality of the debate now far outstrips what was available only a year or two ago.

However, politicians still feel they cannot justify spending serious sums on the environment (in contrast to foreign adventures). Whilst private investment into carbon markets is starting to flow, it is misdirected by environmental illiteracy: look at the CDM, for example. Investments there are all about image, and rarely based on environmental outcomes. We’ll only make progress when we manage to marry some rationalism with some political and economic courage.

So yes, roll on the rational debate and let all the -ists fade away if their job is done! I only hope it’s not all coming too late.

 

David like your thinking and

marcws

David like your thinking and as the CRAg network is a lot about thought and practical leadership as well as awareness this has to be good. Would it not be nice if our political leaders took notice!!!